Sam took the inside when he shouldn't have and hit tonys car.. and tony was right he and honish sould have talked it out .. not all of us have our daddys to pick our fights .. not to mention all penske does is whine when they don't win .. go marco tony and dario had fun watching you in Richmond
July 10th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Voice of Reason:
0 points
Pay attention
People like you on juries are the reason that OJ got off. This thing would have never happened if Michael would have tried to control his driver. I think the majority of these comments are from people on the AGR payroll. Why else would they be so one sided?
July 10th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Voice of Reason:
0 points
Glad you all can pass judgement
I would venture to say that none of you were there in the pits when this happened, so how can you pass judgement on who was in the wrong? Do any of you know what Tony was saying when he was coming at Sam, Jr just before he took a swing at him? If not, then how can you say that Sam, Sr is in the wrong.
July 10th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
pumpum:
0 points
To Moe's posting
Regarding Marco's crew being involved: here is some info you might find interesting. When Penske moved South many of their crew members did not follow along but some found homes with new teams. Some of the crew members on Marco's team were part of Team Penske in prior years. Apparently there has been some disagreements this year between them (not involving drivers.) This is simply thru the grapevine. Therefore, I am sure this was prime opportunity for pay back.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
GoldBadge Joe:
0 points
Real Racin' Speeds
Hey, real racing fan Sam from 9 july @ 4:18pm, u said,"jamie mcmurray winning by 6 inches i will never be a fan", well buddy, I saw ol' Sam beat Al Unser Jr @ ChicagoLand by 0.0024 seconds! In words u might understand, that's 24 ten thoundths of a second. In real racin' speeds that is less than 3 inches dufuss.
July 10th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
HornishStewart206:
0 points
TK picked on the wrong guy
To say Hornish was wrong is pretty ridiculous. He was on TK's back wheel headed into the turn and TK came down on him. It would've been pretty hard for Sam to back out of his position and probably would've caused a big pile up. Hornish had every right to say something after the race, especially after he got clipped going into the pits. Sam isn't going to be pushed around by anyone, much less one of the smallest, most arrogant drivers on the circuit. Isn't this a common theme with AGR? Get mad, pick a fight, and then back out of it. It's a good thing Dario's a part of the team or it would be a complete waste...even with Princess Danica. I'm glad I'll be in Nashville Saturday to see Round 2.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
nicnic1480:
0 points
Dixon
Hey, did anyone notice that Dixon swept this event for the 3rd year running???
How about a little recognition for him!!!
July 10th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Ray:
0 points
Moe...one of the three stooges!
Can’t help but think of the three stooges reading Moe’s comment. And I haven’t seen Jen post a comment back to Moe, so I can’t help but to comment:
As far as Penske cheating, I’m guessing Jen is referring to back in the day. My whole family is fans of IRL, and I remember my Dad & Grandpa talking about Penske team running illegal substances in their car…I can’t remember what it was, but never the less. I’m defiantly calling my pops tonight to ask him & I’ll be back with a more in depth answer.
Concerning Michael being in the scuffle…where was old man Penske? Probably sitting on his big butt somewhere air conditioned. At least AGR owners are always down WITH THEIR TEAM…exactly where owners belong. There are too many owners, managers, etc. in ALL types of work that always stay away from what’s going on. At least AGR owners don’t think they’re too good to get down into their work.
And as far as Marco’s DNFs…let me ask you Moe…what the heck were you doing at 20 years old? I haven’t read about you making hundreds of thousands a year? Don’t hate brother cause you know Marco is doing way better in life than you. I’d like to see how you’d do in a race car Moe. Bet you’d have DNF’s every time!
Also Moe, what’s the deal with Penske not having cameras on his cars? He trying to hide something? Is he just too tight to spend the money? Sounds like to me Moe, you’re a little bias. Don’t throw stones at a glass house when you yourself live in a glass house! Even if Jen is bias towards AGR…Moe, you’re bias to Penske!
July 10th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
tbain64:
0 points
You've gotta be kidding me!
You are kidding me!!! Sam Hornish Jr. went down aggresive into the corner and he got pinched yes. I'm sorry, but that is good racing. I know touching in indy cars hurts the suspension more here, but hell, Sam Hornish Jr. shouldn't be disqualified for pulling up to Tony Kanaan on pit road. If anything, Tony Kanaan should get points taken away for hitting Sam Hornish Jr. intentionally going down pit road.
This is racing, it's not ballet. Drivers go out there to race, and a lot of the series have tried to make it to where you can't even bump. You go and get the position and Sam Hornish Jr. did the right thing and went for the position and Tony Kanaan made it tight for him to pass. Kanaan gave him enough room to stay pinched and Hornish moved up just slightly to make contact. That's call RACING!!!
Also, just for knowledge, the car in the lead does not have the right of way. This isn't the highway. If a car is faster than you and pulls to the inside, it's your option to attempt to block the pass or make sure that neither one of you tear your cars up. If Hornish gets penalized for being too aggressive, then he might as well go to Champ Car because they actually have done a little racing up there and last I remember, no one is close to getting penalized for all the hitting and cutting off they did in Toronto this past weekend.
Sam, Nice race, BOO ANDRETTI GREEN RACING!!!!!!!
Sam took the inside when he shouldn't have and hit tonys car.. and tony was right he and honish sould have talked it out .. not all of us have our daddys to pick our fights .. not to mention all penske does is whine when they don't win .. go marco tony and dario had fun watching you in Richmond
People like you on juries are the reason that OJ got off. This thing would have never happened if Michael would have tried to control his driver. I think the majority of these comments are from people on the AGR payroll. Why else would they be so one sided?
I would venture to say that none of you were there in the pits when this happened, so how can you pass judgement on who was in the wrong? Do any of you know what Tony was saying when he was coming at Sam, Jr just before he took a swing at him? If not, then how can you say that Sam, Sr is in the wrong.
Regarding Marco's crew being involved: here is some info you might find interesting. When Penske moved South many of their crew members did not follow along but some found homes with new teams. Some of the crew members on Marco's team were part of Team Penske in prior years. Apparently there has been some disagreements this year between them (not involving drivers.) This is simply thru the grapevine. Therefore, I am sure this was prime opportunity for pay back.
Hey, real racing fan Sam from 9 july @ 4:18pm, u said,"jamie mcmurray winning by 6 inches i will never be a fan", well buddy, I saw ol' Sam beat Al Unser Jr @ ChicagoLand by 0.0024 seconds! In words u might understand, that's 24 ten thoundths of a second. In real racin' speeds that is less than 3 inches dufuss.
To say Hornish was wrong is pretty ridiculous. He was on TK's back wheel headed into the turn and TK came down on him. It would've been pretty hard for Sam to back out of his position and probably would've caused a big pile up. Hornish had every right to say something after the race, especially after he got clipped going into the pits. Sam isn't going to be pushed around by anyone, much less one of the smallest, most arrogant drivers on the circuit. Isn't this a common theme with AGR? Get mad, pick a fight, and then back out of it. It's a good thing Dario's a part of the team or it would be a complete waste...even with Princess Danica. I'm glad I'll be in Nashville Saturday to see Round 2.
Hey, did anyone notice that Dixon swept this event for the 3rd year running???
How about a little recognition for him!!!
Can’t help but think of the three stooges reading Moe’s comment. And I haven’t seen Jen post a comment back to Moe, so I can’t help but to comment:
As far as Penske cheating, I’m guessing Jen is referring to back in the day. My whole family is fans of IRL, and I remember my Dad & Grandpa talking about Penske team running illegal substances in their car…I can’t remember what it was, but never the less. I’m defiantly calling my pops tonight to ask him & I’ll be back with a more in depth answer.
Concerning Michael being in the scuffle…where was old man Penske? Probably sitting on his big butt somewhere air conditioned. At least AGR owners are always down WITH THEIR TEAM…exactly where owners belong. There are too many owners, managers, etc. in ALL types of work that always stay away from what’s going on. At least AGR owners don’t think they’re too good to get down into their work.
And as far as Marco’s DNFs…let me ask you Moe…what the heck were you doing at 20 years old? I haven’t read about you making hundreds of thousands a year? Don’t hate brother cause you know Marco is doing way better in life than you. I’d like to see how you’d do in a race car Moe. Bet you’d have DNF’s every time!
Also Moe, what’s the deal with Penske not having cameras on his cars? He trying to hide something? Is he just too tight to spend the money? Sounds like to me Moe, you’re a little bias. Don’t throw stones at a glass house when you yourself live in a glass house! Even if Jen is bias towards AGR…Moe, you’re bias to Penske!
You are kidding me!!! Sam Hornish Jr. went down aggresive into the corner and he got pinched yes. I'm sorry, but that is good racing. I know touching in indy cars hurts the suspension more here, but hell, Sam Hornish Jr. shouldn't be disqualified for pulling up to Tony Kanaan on pit road. If anything, Tony Kanaan should get points taken away for hitting Sam Hornish Jr. intentionally going down pit road.
This is racing, it's not ballet. Drivers go out there to race, and a lot of the series have tried to make it to where you can't even bump. You go and get the position and Sam Hornish Jr. did the right thing and went for the position and Tony Kanaan made it tight for him to pass. Kanaan gave him enough room to stay pinched and Hornish moved up just slightly to make contact. That's call RACING!!!
Also, just for knowledge, the car in the lead does not have the right of way. This isn't the highway. If a car is faster than you and pulls to the inside, it's your option to attempt to block the pass or make sure that neither one of you tear your cars up. If Hornish gets penalized for being too aggressive, then he might as well go to Champ Car because they actually have done a little racing up there and last I remember, no one is close to getting penalized for all the hitting and cutting off they did in Toronto this past weekend.